Comment is Free hits a new low

August 13, 2007 at 10:05 am (Human rights, iraq war, voltairespriest)

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at PhotobucketThis has already been mentioned elsewhere, but I thought I’d add my voice to the cacophony currently swelling in denunciation of Neil Clark’s revolting article on the Guardian’s Comment is Free website.

I do appreciate that the standards to which a website (whose whole purpose is to allow the publication of varying views) can be held are not the same those of a print journal. However to witness this apologist for Serb nationalism now turning his attention to Iraqi staff such as translators working for the UK and US operations in Basra and Baghdad, and calling them “quislings”, is quite nauseating nevertheless. In the course of what appears to be an argument with the neocons of Harry’s Place, he appears to have decided that said legion of hapless workers are in fact “mercenaries” who deserve presumably whatever fate the heroic “resistance” mete out to them. Clark writes:

“There is a simple answer to that “practical military issue”: let’s do all we can to keep the British army out of war zones. And in the meantime, let’s do all we can to keep self-centred mercenaries who betrayed their fellow countrymen and women for financial gain out of Britain.”

He also seems to think that it’s hypocritical of the neocons with who he is hypothetically arguing, to support offering asylum to these people. This perceived hypocrisy is apparently based upon the face that the neocons in question obviously supported the war in Iraq. The reason Clark seems to see for the Iraqi workers’ lives being in danger is that because there was an invasion, there were troops on the ground. Because of the troops being on the ground, the “resistance” sprang up. The same troops also employed local staff, who were obviously traitors to their own country, and who were then targeted by the righteous and heroic “resistance”. But it all basically started with the war, so if you think about it I suppose it’s really all the neocons fault that people (to whom Clark doesn’t want to offer asylum, lest we forget) are currently in danger of being killed. Which of course relies not only upon bizarrely twisted logic, not to mention that it rather discounts the possibility that Harry’s Place et al might be right on this issue, in spite of having been wrong to support the war in the first place.

All of which I suppose leads me to not much more of a conclusion than that Neil Clark is a tosser, and that the Guardian’s online media team have weird taste in columnists. I just felt like giving my two penneth.

Anyway, if you want to send them your own thoughts on the issue then the relevant email addresses are georgina.henry@guardian.co.uk and
alan.rusbridger@guardian.co.uk.

22 Comments

  1. Will said,

    new Charlie Brooker tho’
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2147663,00.html

  2. hakmao said,

    Aye, Charlie nailed it this week.

    I hated [clubs] when I was 19 and I hate them today. I just don’t have to pretend any more.

    Exactamundo, comrade curmudgeon.

  3. Simon B said,

    Charlie Brooker was 100% bang on today, except for the bit about envying clubbers.

    Hak Mao,

    Exactly how I feel.

  4. voltaires_priest said,

    Clubs do indeed suck. But then on the other hand they have music, glamorously dressed women and they sell booze. So they don’t suck all that much. Not as good as a decent wine bar though.

  5. Will said,

  6. voltaires_priest said,

    That’s not you in the hat, is it?

  7. hakmao said,

    1. Not sure the doof-doof-doof shite you bairns listens to can be considered music.

    2. No, clubs still suck — overpriced alcohol and all.

    3. Not trying to be prolier than thou, but I have never been in a winebar — you and your posh southern ways.

  8. Will said,

    No.

  9. voltaires_priest said,

    They have wine bars in the North as well, you know…

  10. hakmao said,

    They have wine bars in the North as well, you know.

    Not once we establish the Socialist Republic of Prydain…

  11. Jules said,

    Yeah… if you count Yates’s ; )

    Despite the mightyness of comrade Charlie B I’ve got to agree with the Priest on this one. A good club should be seen as a pub, concert and a (free and pissed) speed dating service rolled into one great experience.

    Brooker shouldn’t base his judgement on the Hoxtonite Nathan Barlyoid yuppyhole he visited. Just another good reason not to have glamorous celeb mates i reckons.

  12. voltaires_priest said,

    Whatever happened to Nathan Barley?

  13. Richard Bayley said,

    I have a problem with people who say they hate clubs – where do they go to dance? (Please no more tossers who don’t dance! – remember it’s one of the things the ruling class can’t do!)
    Some excellent clubs to visit in the North:-
    (a) Easington Miners Welfare – fantastic huge sprung dancefloor & cheap beer. Put a little talc down, turn the Northern Soul up to 11, you’re away!
    (b) New(ish) venue in Sunderland…. the Merchant Exchange. Excellent floor (again), plus another small room with its own bar and postage stamp floor, which can be used as a modern or R&B/rare room as needed. (Beer was crap tho’….)
    In London, I’ve visited Jack’s this year, which is under the Arches round the back of London Bridge Station. Think damp, dingy cellar with one lightbulb working, but with an all-night bar and rare ’60’s soul & R&B hammering. Heaven……think I’ll go and have some more dexedrine….

  14. hakmao said,

    Don’t think those are the sort of clubs Brooker is on about Richard. Beer is not the only crap thing in Sunderland.

  15. Jules said,

    “Whatever happened to Nathan Barley?”

    It’s had one series.

    Very under rated.

    Not a 2nd in the pipeline as far as I’m aware.

  16. Clive said,

    RIchard

    I hink that’s the place which doubles on a Saturday as Club XXL. Not for the faint-hearted. Nor, really, for the thin.

  17. voltaires_priest said,

    Merchant Exchange sounds cool.

  18. hakmao said,

    Are you trying to wind Mags up?

  19. voltaires_priest said,

    Mags? Ooo’s she?

  20. hakmao said,

    Mags are people whose tribal loyalties lie with a team which is found 20 kilometres north of the Merchant Exchange — as you well know.

  21. Simon B said,

    Richard,

    If I’m forced to dance it’s not my revolution.

  22. voltaires_priest said,

    Hak;

    With the best will in the world, how in the fuck would I know that? I’m not from the North East, you know 😛

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