Afghan elections: three million-plus defy the fascists

September 19, 2010 at 2:37 am (Afghanistan, anti-fascism, Champagne Charlie, democracy, Human rights, islamism, terror, thuggery, women)

Above: anti-fascist Afghan women: they know how to deal with the Taliban

“Although the “west” has all but given up on Afghan democracy – the agreed-upon euphemism for this betrayal appears to be “working to lower expectations” – it would seem that a few million Afghans have voted in today’s elections anyway, braving Taliban threats of dismemberment and death…”

Read  the rest of what Terry Glavin has to say, here

27 Comments

  1. resistor said,

    You have used a photograph depicting female members of the Afghan police. Since when have the police been anti-fascist?

    Real Afghan feminists take a different view…

    http://www.rawa.org/police-3.htm

    Corruption is a growth industry for Afghanistan’s police. They stand accused of extorting money from drug smugglers, gun runners, brothel owners and gamblers, in return for looking the other way. Those who refuse to pay can be arrested as part of an apparently virtuous clean-up campaign, and then released once they hand over the cash.

    http://www.rawa.us/hrw-police.htm

    Human Rights Watch expressed serious concern about the possible permanent appointment of Kabul’s police chief, Jamil Jumbish, who has been implicated in murder, torture, intimidation, bribery and interfering with investigations into misconduct by officers directly under his control. He is currently under investigation by the Afghan government for involvement in the torture and death of two men in his custody. Jumbish has allegedly used his position of power to sell police posts and is accused of possession of illegal weapons, which he has refused to turn over to the appropriate authorities.

    etc .

  2. maxdunbar said,

    As if you could give a fuck about Afghan feminists.

    Anyway, that’s your last comment on this thread. Cunt

  3. resistor said,

    (twat, deleted)

  4. resistor said,

    (twat, deleted)

  5. resistor said,

    Sticks and stones

  6. skidmarx said,

    I didn’t realise that Max Dunbar gave a fuck about Afghan feminists.I assumed that all this rage about those opposed to the occupation being pro-fascist was just a propaganda tool to show that he really loves guns and imperialsim.

  7. charliethechulo said,

    Skidders: silly boy…grow up and learn to think.

  8. resistor said,

    Terry Glavin loves guns too

    here’s a picture of him posing with one, looking all macho and that

    http://eamonnmcdonagh.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/no-fucking-pasaran/

  9. charliethechulo said,

    …whereas you, “resister” just love the idea of women being oppressed by gynophobic regimes: no doubt because in such a regime you’d be a big man who’d have some transplanted bollocks.

  10. charliethechulo said,

    Oh yes: I can see why “resitwat” doesn’t like the idea of women police. And not *just* because he opposes the creation of civil society in Afghanistan…

  11. resistor said,

    Max and Jim think they know what best for the women of Afghanistan and are prepared to support the murdering, torturing, raping and drug-dealing Afghan police force. All I have done is put forward the views of the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan. I understand why you prefer to ignore them.

  12. charliethechulo said,

    You think RAWA (for all their incoherence on certain questions – well they *are* Maoists, remember) agree with a gynophobe like you, “resistwat”?

    Think again:
    http://www.rawa.org/rules.htm

    Oh, I forgot : thought is beyond you, isn’t it, twatboy?

  13. resistor said,

    Do you really think that opposing imperialism and corrupt rule in Afghanistan is the same as supporting the Taliban (who the Imperialists supported in the past and are courting now)? I think you’ll find that RAWA oppose both imperialism and the Taliban.

    As we know, the AWL supports imperialism as what they see as a progressive civilising mission. Theirs is the Socialism of Dupes.

  14. jim denham said,

    Twat-boy sez: “Do you really think that opposing imperialism and corrupt rule in Afghanistan is the same as supporting the Taliban ?”…

    …ehh, in your case, twat-boy: YES.

  15. resistor said,

    Well you are promoting the Afghan Police Force. Let’s see what you want for the people of Afghanistan.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/afghan-police-mired-in-controversy

    ‘Accused of kidnappings, murders, rapes, extortion and trafficking, and now, the murder of five British troops, the ANP is light years away from what Nato calls “a force fit for purpose”.’

    That’s right. Murders, rapes, extortion and trafficking, but the AWL thinks they’re great.

  16. scott neil said,

    RAWA are an admirable and indefatigable bunch shining a light on some of the many imperfections of Afghanistan.

    however, i find it odd no one who opposed to foreign troop involvement in Afghanistan ever cites the equally indefatigable and progressive, and far more numerous in range, opinions, from similarly progressive, impeccably feminist (and so on) Afghan organisations that disagree fundamentally with RAWA on a timetable for international involvement in Afghanistan.

    weird, isn’t it?

    http://nawaaye-afghanistan.net/spip.php?article10773

    The perfect is the enemy of the good.

  17. maxdunbar said,

    Yep. The Afghan resistance is very diverse with some people supporting the war, others against. Obviously the far left will cherrypick

  18. resistor said,

    The photo above is promoting the Afghan police.

    From the same article

    ‘Training has noticeably improved and all recruits now get a minimum of three months’ instruction at Kabul’s national police academy, with senior Afghan officers working alongside newly installed foreign mentors. One of those mentors, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “Look, it’s bloody hard. For a start, the cultural differences are beyond belief. These are men who beat their wives and make their daughters wear a burka.”

    Nice comrades you have Jim.

  19. charliethechulo said,

    We’re in favour of civil society having a chance in Afghanistan. That includes a police force. If you’re not in favour of that, twat-boy, then *ipso facto*, you support the Taliban…which, of course, you do, as we said at the beginning of this. Why the fuck do we bother with a pro-fascist, woman-hating asshole like you? Only, really, to educate our readers.
    .

  20. paul fauvet said,

    What the idiot who calls himself resistor cannot understand is that the fact there are women in the Afghan police force is in itself a significant advance – if the Taliban were to regain power in Afghanistan, those courageous women will probably be strung up from the nearest lampost.

  21. charliethechulo said,

    …which he’d applaud, of couse.

  22. Egg on your face said,

    So ironic to see people like CharlieTheChulo accusing others of gynophobia and the like while screaming ‘cunt’, ‘twat’ and similar abuse associating those they hate with women’s genitals.

    Evidently they simply hate women’s genitals. Freud would spot the association.

    Then there is the fantasy psycho-kiler ‘Oscar Lomaz’ (aka Will Rubbish).

    What an advert for this site. If you really hate ‘cunts’, ‘twats’ and so love fantasising about murder of people associated with such things, why not go the whole hog and give posting rights to Peter Sutcliffe?

  23. Oscar Lomax said,

    Eggy Weggy is a real laff. DO NOT DElETE his electronic scribbles here. I am planning a limited edition bound set of his grand world systems theory and making the commodity available to all at the right price.

    Ebay will have all the details soon.

  24. mo said,

    some of the comments on here are a disgrace….this is what has happened to our political culture….lies, insults, distortions, half truths and intimadation…

  25. Guy Debord's Underpants said,

    Oeuf sur le le visage boutonneux:

    Le spectacle se représente à la fois comme la société même, comme une partie de la société, et comme instrument d’unification. En tant que partie de la société, il est expressément le secteur qui concentre tout regard et toute conscience. Du fait même que ce secteur est séparé, il est le lieu du regard abusé et de la fausse conscience ; et l’unification qu’il accomplit n’est rien d’autre qu’un langage officiel de la séparation généralisée.

    Le internets – choses sérieuses

  26. charliethechulo said,

    Eggface: calling someone a “twat” (or even a “cunt”) may be offensive and, arguably sexist. Do you seriously believe that it’s comparable to tearing a teacher limb from limb simply for having taught girls?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/disembowelled-then-torn-apart-the-price-of-daring-to-teach-girls-426241.html
    That’s what your beloved Taliban do: a bit of offensive language kind of pales into insignificance in comparison, don’t you think?

  27. Oscar Lomax said,

    When you’re interviewing Rangers fans for local news you may as well stick in everything they say, unedited. I mean, it’s not like they’ll slip in VERY BAD WORDS or anything, will they? (Warning: May contain VERY BAD WORDS)

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