Bob on “decency”

August 27, 2010 at 7:53 pm (anti-fascism, Anti-Racism, anti-semitism, blogging, Jim D, Pro-War Left, relativism, secularism, socialism)

Here at Shiraz we’re always keen to put our readers in touch with good blogging and serious discussion from elsewhere. Our mate Bob (Yer Man from Brockley) has initiated a discussion about the phenomenon of leftist “decency”, and where it’s at today. I would not go along with him that Lenny “Seymour” Lenin or Andy “Leftwing” Nooman, though undoubtably “indecent”, are worth taking seriously.  But Bob has initiated a very worthwhile debate. Here’s his introduction :

This post is the first of three planned oblique attempts to address the core contradictions at the heart of the Bob project, as well as to respond to some of the discussions at my more heated comment threads, such as this one, this one and this one. It starts with a report on a recent and not particularly important spat amongst the leftover remains of the British anti-racist movement carried out in the courts and in the blogosphere, amongst three of the heavier hitters of the UK-based but internationally read left bloggers, Harry’s Place, Andy Newman’s Socialist Unity and Richard Seymour’s Lenin’s Tomb. This spat is a good occasion to reflect on the meaning of “decency” and “indecency” in politics. In reflecting on this, the post touches on three areas: the conflict in the former Yugoslavia, the war on terror, and the etiquette of debate, with a kind of footnote on the anti-racist movement. All of these are illustrated with examples from British fringe politics of the 1990s and thus have a slightly autobiographical element, although I’ve done my best to keep self-indulgence to a minimum. I realise that the coherence of these elements might not be immediately apparent, but I would genuinely appreciate your responses, even if you only read part of it…

Read the rest here

The comments are also uniformly good, including even some from Gameboy, who comes over as a complete wanker when he comments here at Shiraz. Maybe he sobered up, took his medication, or just decided to be on best behaviour for Bob.


…top blogging from the Brockley Man!


  1. Bob said,

    Thanks for the recommendation Jim. I have to say I have been suprised and pleased at the standard of commenting, including John’s. I like to think I bring out the best in everybody…

  2. jim denham said,

    …unlike me, it would seem…

  3. darren redstar said,

    Bob is brilliant!
    he is one of the very few people who bother to read my blog- makes him a star in my books.

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