Atzmon, the “liberal” establishment’s favourite self-hating Jew and anti-semite, raises his foul head again
I see that the anti-semite Gilad Atzmon, a moderately talented jazz musician, is once again receiving the plaudits of the “liberal” establishment. This foul creature is a holocaust-denier, a conspiracy theorist and an anti-semite. The fact that he was born an Israeli Jew seems to convince some stupid people that he can’t be an anti-semite. He clearly is. I always hesitate to use the term “self-hater” about Jewish people who oppose the policies (or even the very existence) of Israel. But in the case of Atzmon, the the term is one hundred per cent true and accurate. He is a now a Christian, which in itself is fair enough I suppose. But his foul propaganda (endorsed by, amongst other ultra-right wingers and neo-Nazis, David Duke of the KKK), repeats all the old Christian (and Nazi) anti-semitic conspiracy theories.
The only excuse that can be made for this sax-playing racist is that he is almost certainly mentally ill. That’s certainly the opinion of several people I’ve spoken to who know him personally.
Happily, more amd more pro-Palestinian campaigners are seeing through Atzmon and denouncing him.

Woricker simply takes at face value, Atzmon’s lying description of himself as an honest “anti-Zionist,” persecuted by his reactionary enemies. The programme even features the pro-Atzmon film’s director, Golriz Kolahi, invoking jazz’s role in the civil rights movement as though that noble cause was pretty much the same thing as Atzmon’s anti-semitic agenda.
The most laughable part of all is when Woricker suggests that Atzmon’s politics may have put at risk his musical success – as though a minor league sub-Parker jazz saxophonist would be being interviewd on the World Service if he hadn’t come out with his “controversial” views.
As a jazz loiver, I hate Atzmon mainly because in my opinion he’s betrayed the very essence of jazz with his foul racism. I wrote this following some time ago, but I think it bears republishing once again:
Atzmon, why is that you make me so angry? Maybe it’s because I love jazz. I love jazz in all its forms, including post-bop, which I don’t really understand. But even when I don’t understand or like a particular form of jazz (latter-day Miles Davis, or John Coltrane, for instance; also Jelly Roll Morton’s Red Hot Peppers) , I always respect the integrity of the musician(s), trying to do something new — which is what jazz is all about.
Actually, jazz is about something else as well: from its earliest days in and around New Orleans, it was about what would now be called “social inclusion”: at a time when blacks and whites could not mix socially, jazz began to break down the barriers.
On 17 July 1923 the (white) New Orleans Rhythm Kings recorded with the black pianist/composer Ferd “Jelly Roll” Morton. It was the very first “integrated” recording session. A few years later (1929) Eddie Condon organised a band of his favourite musicians for a recording session (‘That’s A Serious Thing’ and ‘I’m Gonna Stomp Mr Henry Lee’) that happened to include both white and black musicians. Condon thought nothing of it at the time:
“Five nights a week I went to Harlem, early or late, whether I was working or loafing. At Small’s Paradise on 135th Street I heard Charlie Johnson’s band, with Leonard Davis on trumpet, Happy Cauldwell on tenor saxophone, and George Stafford on drums. Someone, I thought, ought to put this music on records; it’s too good to miss. I went to Ralph Peer, of the Southern Music Company, a subsidiary of Victor. He looked dubious when I outlined my idea. ‘I want to use Davis, Cauldwell, and Stafford,’ I said, ‘with some friends of mine — Jack Teagarden, Joe Sullivan, and Mezzrow.’ After listening to me talk for twenty minutes about the music which would come out of such a combination, Peer gave in and set a date. ‘This will be for Victor,’ he said. ‘I hope it’s good’.
“It was, though Mezzrow and I played too. We made ‘I’m Gonna Stomp Mr Henry Lee’ and ‘That’s A Serious Thing’. The negro Joe Sullivan [NB: the pianist on the records was the white Irish-American stride and blues master, Joe Sullivan — JD] supplied us with some special introductory chords for ‘That’s A Serious Thing’. When the masters were cut Mr Peer congratulated me. ‘You were right about the music’, he said. ‘It is excellent. All in all I should say this has been an interesting experiment.’ It wasn’t untill I got out in the street that I realised what he meant. I made some inquiries: so far as I could discover we had made the first mixed recording date on any national label, using both white and negro musicians. I thought it had been done long before.”
Condon was not a political person, but he was a decent human being who loved jazz music, and so understood that catagorising people on the basis of race is simply wrong. A member of the audience once asked Condon, “Is your clarinet-player a negro?” (a reference to the light-skinned Afro-American Edmund Hall); Condon replied. “I dunno: I never asked him.”
It is that spirit that should inform jazz. It is the music of democracy, anti-racism and equality. Of course, many of the great pioneers were black Americans: Louis Armstrong, Sidney Bechet, Duke Ellington, Dizzy Gillespie, Charlie Parker, Theloneous Monk, John Coltrane, etc, etc. But plenty, too, were white — and quite a few Jewish (at a time when Jews were experiencing a milder form of the racism meted out to blacks in America): Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Max Kaminsky, Red Rodney, Zoot Sims, etc, etc. The fact that none of these ever made a big deal about being Jewish, is rather the point. They regarded jazz as simply music, and music that was the property of everyone — regardless of race, country of origin or skin pigmentation
Do you agree with that premise, or not, Gilad?
There is an interesting alternative story: that of Charlie and his Orchestra. Have you heard of this outfit, Gilad? It was formed during World War Two by the Nazis, when they realised that jazz and swing were a powerful propaganda tool for the Allies. So the Nazis formed their own broadcasting “swing” band — Charlie and his Orchestra — to play the hits of the day, with lyrics modified to convey Nazi propaganda. It was not a very good swing band, but its Nazi message was effective.
A few years ago I was discussing these matters on a jazz e-mail list, when someone brought up Charlie and his Orchestra, and I immediately denounced ‘Charlie’ and stated that I would never listen to it. Someone pointed out to me that quite a few of the musicians in the Charlie Orchestra were Jewish: they were playing for the Nazis in order to save their lives, and the lives of their families.
So, Gilad, when you make mock (as you do with your “Artie Fishal and the Promised Band”) of Israeli Jews simply for being Israeli Jews, and when you make statements to the effect that the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” may be accurate in describing Jews, and that “American Jewry makes any debate on whether the ‘Protocols of the elder [sic] of Zion’ are an authentic document or rather a forgery irrelevant. American Jews do try to control the world, by proxy” (www.workersliberty.org/node/4325), what is it you think you’re saying?
And you go on to say (this is all on your website, by the way, so I presume you won’t be denying any of it): “The Jews are the ultimate Chamelions, they can be whatever they like so long as it serves some expedient…not only can’t they win…they can’t lose either, they can never be defeated…They move forwards and backwards, from left to right, from right to left, from spirituality into materialism, from orthodox Marxism into hard capitalism…”
You may not realise it, Gilad, but this kind of stuff is classic European and Russian anti-semitism: the Jews as both Bolsheviks and Rothschild capitalists: the ultimate conspirators. Your stupid, ignorant “Artie Fishal” routine is worse than Charlie and his Orchestra: at least the Jews in that band played anti-semitic material because they had no choice; you do it because you want to. Because you revel in baiting your homeland, which you wish to see destroyed.
You are free, of course, to bait Israel and to spout your antisemitic filth. The degenerate ex-Marxists of the SWP are free to promote you [*] and your band (though why, exactly, they should allow you to speak on the politics of the Middle East, remains a mystery).
But, as a jazz-lover, I have to say that I hate your racism. Jazz is the music of integration, of humanity and equality. Your racism has no place in our music.
[* Since the Open Letter was written, the SWP have fairly obviously broken with Atzmon, though they have not accounted for their dalliance with him].
mr-morph@gmail.com said,
October 14, 2012 at 9:06 pm
But don’t forget that the accusation of antisemitism can be abused as well as (rightfully) used:
http://original.antiwar.com/david-gibbs/2012/06/10/welcome-to-the-balkan-propaganda-machine/
Marko Attila Hoare has so far failed to respond.
Jim Denham said,
October 14, 2012 at 9:11 pm
Mr morph: all accusations, of absolutely anything, can be “abused”: so what is your point?
Jimmy Glesga said,
October 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm
I thought you had to be a former Christian to be born again. But what do I know about religious nutterdom.
Jimmy Glesga said,
October 14, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Nice way to start a letter ‘you piece of shit’ and make the point straight away. Well done. Who actually wrote the letter?
rebeccalesses said,
October 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Who wrote the letter? From what I can see, Jim D., the author of the blogpost. Why would you think it was someone else?
Jimmy Glesga said,
October 15, 2012 at 1:33 am
Maybe he got help.
rebeccalesses said,
October 15, 2012 at 2:24 am
?
Babz Badasbab Rahman said,
October 14, 2012 at 11:16 pm
This was an interesting read, for me at least-
http://www.socialistunity.com/gilad-atzmon-%E2%80%93-now-an-open-holocaust-denier/
Sarah AB said,
October 15, 2012 at 6:18 am
I thought the whole programme was quite extraordinary. I could imagine a scenario where the presenter simply hadn’t done his research, and I could imagine a programme where Atzmon’s views were challenged properly. But Woricker gave the impression of having looked into him with reasonable care – and yet didn’t seem bothered, seemed to think the criticisms weren’t really worth engaging with. I’ve heard him being challenged robustly by PSC activists (on audio recording of event) – he’s hardly a marginal case and he doesn’t try to hide his views – one wonders what exactly Woricker read.
Manchester PR said,
October 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm
If a blantant racist cannot be sussed by those that say they are liberal it shows that anti-semitism has burrowed so deep into teh Western concious that few see it or even if they do they don’t care
bler4egHH omceonmretatry said,
October 17, 2012 at 10:09 pm
PR agency Manchester – jesus where the fuck do these arseholes come from? You’re a twat mate – a fucking twat. Fuck off.
Manchester pr said,
October 17, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Is that your idea of a response? Certainly challenges my ideas you are a gift to democracy
Faster Pussycat Miaow! Miaow! Miaow! said,
October 18, 2012 at 2:20 am
PR is certainly not a gift to anything you sub-Cameroon wannabe. Your microwaved Tesco ready meal ‘opinion’ is not only craven link-trolling (aka spam), it’s fucking *ungrammatical* spam.
Manchester PR said,
October 18, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Try tackling the opinion, it is like talking to hysterical baboons
1 I am not a Tory, far from it
2 my opinion that I have given is sound, you have not tackled it at all – try using your brain
3 do you send texts back with red lines going through poor langauge? This is comments on a blog, so lighten up
bler4egHH omceonmretatry said,
October 18, 2012 at 7:58 am
“The NHS is going through structural changes as it is being re-positioned to offer greater value for the resources directed towards it.”
The art of PR ladies and gentlemen. You cunt, what are doing on a nominally socialist blRErGGH? The social parasite must’ve followed a hat tip from HP Sauce or some shit.
Manchester PR said,
October 18, 2012 at 2:26 pm
And what have you done to help anyone?
I was asked by the NHS to help them build bridges with other organisations that can improve its IT and thus improve patient care – I think that is pretty worthwhile, more so than being a schoolchild and using “cunt” “fuck” to attack someone you know nothing about because you have no real idea of what they do – hardly wothy of anyone with a brain cell
My comments were unchallenged only he does PR so he must be BADDD!
It is like calling a lcoal TV presenter a “cunt” because it has some similarity to Jimmy Saville’s profession
I wonder if you do anything useful for society because I could use your brain cell to build an idiot
blergHhhhhhhhhhhh commemetayraryer said,
October 18, 2012 at 2:36 pm
‘I am not a Tory, far from it’
Then why is your website pimping the tory privatisati… er i mean ‘structural reform’ of the NHS then dickwad? Here’s a thought – why don’t you get a proper jerB instead of teaching blood suckers how to lie more efficiently. And as for tackling your worthless opinions – why the fuck would anybody want to do that? Get your sorry ass over to ‘harry’s place’ where you can meet some likeminded pondlife.
Faster Pussycat Miaow! Miaow! Miaow! said,
October 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm
‘Blub blub blub! Those nasty commies are attacking me for my part in enabling the government’s vicious war against workers and unemployed. Oh pity poor me.’ The vocabulary of ‘PR’ is the vocabulary of Nazism – ‘resettlement in the East’ and all the rest of it. ‘Oh but I only guarded the front gate, I had no idea about the other stuff, honest guv’nor.’ You are utter scum. Blerghhy is right. Fuck off to HP with the corporate lawyers and hedge fund managers, where you can whip each other into a lather about the muzzie hordes and the evil Trots all day and into the night.
Sarah AB said,
October 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm
‘The vocabulary of ‘PR’ is the vocabulary of Nazism’. !!!
Here’s a link Manchester PR . We are lovely really.
http://hurryupharry.org/
hossenpfeffer said,
October 19, 2012 at 9:52 am
no sarah ab you’re not lovely really. your own arse must be infested with splinters from the amount of fence sitting you do there, and your inability to manisfest any real anger and passion about how the rich are attempting to solve their crisis brutally at our expense is sickening. With the possible exception maybe of Brownie none of you on that blog show that you have any idea what we are up against.
Harry’s place’s main function in the last 8 or so years has been to enable a below the line conversation in favour of one particular form of ethnic chauvinism and religious nationalism over another, and to give voice to anti-working class rhetoric from a bunch of middle class academics and working class Tories. Below the line, the conversation returns endlessly to blame the poor for their own misery and, as a sideline, to smear anyone who so much as suggests that an appreciable part of Israeli state machinery, and that section’s beneficiaries, are and always have been as much an obstacle to peace as any other element in that dispute.
i would say that there are a (very) few exceptions to the mostly vile conversations that are held below-the-line (and above the line by some of the blog’s contributors) if any more than two or three of the contributors to those exceptions ever railed persistently and passionately about the vicious onslaught we are facing from the ruling class and their tory, liberal, and labour collaborators, but the truth is that they too are comfortably anaesthetised in their law firms and hedge funds and academic institutions and are apparently fearful of speaking out, and acting, passionately, on domestic matters and against the much greater brutality being visited upon us by Osborne and his ilk.
So fuck your “we’re lovely really”, You’re a bunch of complacent cowards, spouting bullshit and avoiding confronting in any meaningful way what actually does.matter. At the rally tomorrow if i see anyone woman holding hands with others and singing kumbaya i will be wondering if that’s you. If i see any woman getting righteously angry and confronting those confronting us i know for sure that will not be you.
hossenpfeffer said,
October 19, 2012 at 9:55 am
Oh yeah, and fuck Atzmon too.
Monsuer Jelly More Bounce to the Ounce (Much More Bounce) said,
October 19, 2012 at 10:34 am
correct.