Bradford TUC call on music festival to withdraw invitation to Gilad Atzmon
Engage reports:
Hope Not Hate and Bradford TUC have now called for the organisers of Raise Your Banners to withdraw the invitation to Gilad Atzmon.
Nick Lowles writes :
Bradford TUC is joining up with the HOPE not hate campaign in calling on the Bradford-based Raise Your Banners organisation to withdraw its invitation to Gilad Atzmon who is due to perform at one of its events on 25 November.
Gilad Atzmon is an antisemite and flirts with Holocaust Denial and Holocaust Deniers. He was born in Israel but now lives in the UK and is a jazz musician.
This is just one of his many offensive comments about the Holocaust.
“When I was young and naïve I was also convinced that what they told us about our ‘collective’ Jewish past really happened. I believed it all, the Kingdom of David, Massada, and then the Holocaust: the soap, the lampshade, the death march, the six million.
As it happened, it took me many years to understand that the Holocaust, the core belief of the contemporary Jewish faith, was not at all an historical narrative for historical narratives do not need the protection of the law and politicians.”
“It took me many years to accept that the Holocaust narrative, in its current form, doesn’t make any historical sense. Here is just one little anecdote to elaborate on:
“If, for instance, the Nazis wanted the Jews out of their Reich (Judenrein – free of Jews), or even dead, as the Zionist narrative insists, how come they marched hundreds of thousands of them back into the Reich at the end of the war?”
“I am left puzzled here; if the Nazis ran a death factory in Auschwitz-Birkenau, why would the Jewish prisoners join them at the end of the war? Why didn’t the Jews wait for their Red liberators?”
Atzmon is also implicated in the distribution of the Holocaust denier Paul Eisner’s book ‘The Holocaust Wars which he has described as a ‘great text’. This great text is notorious for its defence and espousal of amongst others Ernst Zundel, the convicted Holocaust denier. He has also been linked with Israel Shamir, another Holocaust denier, who has links to many white supremacist and Nazi groups. Indeed when Eisner’s document was originally posted it was on Shamir’s website, Atzmon described Shamir as a ‘unique and advanced thinker’.
We believe that Atzmon should be shunned by all decent people – just as we would shun David Irving and Nick Griffin. Just because Atzmon is Jewish does not mean that he cannot be either antisemitic or deny the Holocaust.
Bradford TUC voted unanimously to denounce Atzmon and his invitation to perform at the Raise Your Banners event. The TUC has written to the organisers in the hope that they will withdraw the invitation. Paul Meszaros, of Bradford TUC and HOPE not hate Yorkshire, said: “There is no way that Atzmon should play. The evidence against him is overwhelming.
“We are appalled at this decision and believe that this is a serious point of principle. Bradford TUC has long been at the fore of the anti-fascist movement in the area and it is in this tradition that we demand the withdrawal of Atzmon’s invitation.”
A call to action from Bob From Brockley.
Above: a sick man promotes his sick book
Erica Blair said,
November 24, 2011 at 3:38 pm
I believe Atzmon used to be a soldier. Could you tell us in the army of which country did he serve?
Harry Tuttle said,
November 24, 2011 at 4:24 pm
If you’re going to use a pseudonym, resistor, could you stick to just one? Or did you forget that you were exposed on Modernity’s blog?
That said, what is the relevance of your question?
charliethechulo said,
November 24, 2011 at 6:55 pm
I believe Erica/Resistor hates a particular country. Could S/he tell us which one it is?
Rosie said,
November 24, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Erica Blair – there’s a search facility on the internet called Google. Have you heard of it?
Here’s a link:-
http://www.google.co.uk/
If you want to find out in which army Gilad Atzmon was a soldier try the following search:-
“Gilad Atzmon” soldier army
That should give you the information you require.
charliethechulo said,
November 24, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Erica/ resistor: you could also try Googling “Hitler might have been right after all” to see what you come up with:
This: http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20Editorials/2011/November/16%200/Israeli-Led%20Coming%20War%20on%20Iran,%20Armageddon%20Ahead%20By%20Gilad%20Atzmon.htm
But I’ve no doubt you know that already. And agree.
It really has come to something when a man who can say (in *whatever* context) that “Hitler might have been right” can be supported by some people who claim to be “left wing”. A genuine Left would have put a price on his head by now.
Argaman said,
November 25, 2011 at 4:28 am
Charlie – no, you fail to understand the truth known only to the likes of erica – it has now been revealed that Israel is the real Nazi Germany. And the Holocaust never happened, but they deserved it anyway.
Lisa Hadley said,
November 26, 2011 at 1:33 pm
I went to the gig. It was faaaabuuulous. What a musician. Well done Gilad. Thanks for alerting me to it.
Jim Denham said,
November 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Yes Lisa: he’s a good saxophonist (though not as good as he and his acolytes believe); if only he’d keep the horn in his mouth and stop spouting neo-Nazism…
http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/listen-atzmon-you-piece-of-shit/
Lisa Hadley said,
November 27, 2011 at 1:31 pm
No Jim, honest to god it was out of this world and when he addressed the audience he was utterly charming.
Jim Denham said,
November 27, 2011 at 8:24 pm
” when he addressed the audience he was utterly charming”: I seem to recall Unity Mitford said something similar about Hitler.
Tony Greenstein said,
January 19, 2012 at 3:01 am
The problem with all these repeats is that once you make a mistake it is endlessly echoed. There is no such person as Eisner the holocaust denier. Unfortunately Nick Lowles believes it is an affront to his dignity to correct this or to attribute the said quote about Shamir being an ‘advanced and unique’ thinker to an e-mail he sent as part of a ‘discussion’ with me. That would rather spoil the case of those who argue that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are synonymous.
I seem to remember Stalin liked airbrushing people of out history too!
Jim Denham said,
January 19, 2012 at 7:50 am
I’ve no idea about whether “Eisener the holocaust denier” exists or not, or whether Nick Lowles got that particular fact wrong, and if so, why. If it’s wrong, then of course it should be corrected. Same goes for the quote about Shamir – though the fact that Atzmon is a close associate of Shamir is well-documented (not least by Atzmon himself).
These seem utterly trivial matters when set alongside the foul antisemitism of Atzmon and the excellent anti-racist stance of Bradford TUC.
And Tony Greenstein should clarify *who* exactly, he thinks argues that “anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are synonymous.” I’ve never heard anyone argue that, though “anti-Zionists” regularly claim that this is a frequent accusation. What a lot of us *do* argue is that simply calling yourself an “anti-Zionist” doesn’t mean that *ipso facto* you cannot be antisemitic or use antisemitic arguments. Geddit Tony?
PS excellent article by Tanya Gold in the Graun:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/16/lse-nazi-games-antisemitic-acceptable
Pity about the all-too-prdictable replies from “anti-Zionists.”
Monsuer Jelly est Formidable said,
January 19, 2012 at 8:44 am
check this appalling shit owt Jim
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda
see the (favourable) mention of one Philip Giraldi in the piece of horse shit cooment is werthlesS shit. You shud do a Google of his name and shit – a crankpoTT and conspiracy theorist and an antisemite and a racist cuernt.
eg:
http://magazine.uchicago.edu/9910/html/letters.html
standards at guardian cifiltic towers – v low indeed
modernity's ghost said,
January 19, 2012 at 3:16 pm
Tony Greenstein’s pedantry is boring as it fails to illuminate the issue.
It should be Paul Eisen, twas a simple typo, understandable, not a major issue.
You can find his material posted on a large number of Extreme Right sites, such as zundelsite, etc
In fact, Eisen praises the neo-Nazi, Ernst Zundel, this is but one pathetic example from him:
tonyg666 said,
June 30, 2012 at 7:49 pm
Err yes Mr Ghost. This quote from Eisen’s Holocaust Wars is perfectly well known. But unlike you we actually do something about it! Eisen was peddling his wares outside the PSC Conference in January where his holocaust denying mate Frances Clarke Lowes was due to be expelled from.
THe point is though that you can’t condemn one form of racism then praise another (Zionism) and that is what Jim Denham among other do regularly. Either it’s a principle anti-racism or a tactic.
Jim Denham said,
July 1, 2012 at 3:53 am
Mr Greenstein (aka tony666): what you have never been willing to uinderstand is that Zionism is simply Jewish nationalism and therefore no more and no less racist than any other form of nationalism. You lie when you say I “praise” it: I have never done that. What I have done is defend it against slanderers like you, “absolute anti-Zionists” who deny Israel’s right to exist and people who through ignorance or malice, recycle the old Stalinist myths about Zionists – including the foul myth (in Jim Allen’s play ‘Perdition’ and the writings of Lenni Brenner,on which it’s based, for instance) than “Zionists” collaborated with the Nazis.
See this:
http://engageonline.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/workers-liberty-on-perdition/