Occupy: For Good Against Evil!

October 30, 2011 at 8:42 pm (capitalism, Champagne Charlie, Civil liberties, good people, Human rights)

A stupid fuckin’ eedjit writes:

Strangely for a Marxist site very little coverage of the occupy wall street movement on this site and the crackdown by the police thugs of freedom loving imperialist state numero uno. One has to conclude that is not a coincidence to your pro imperialist views.”

For the record, ‘Shiraz Socialist’ is (generally) for Good against Evil (as illustrated below); guess which side we’re on in this particular instance…

‘Shiraz Socialist’ does not attempt to comment upon every item in the news. We prioritise items that may be of particular interest to socialists and/or trade unionists; but even then, if we have nothing of originality or particular interest to add to what other commentators have already said, then we may not say anything at all. That doesn’t mean we think the matter is of no importance

You may have noticed, like “Steve” (quoted at the top of this post), that none here has commented upon the “Occupy” movement as yet. I should hope that it goes without saying that all of us at Shiraz support them, for all their incoherence. I, personally, agree with this.

By far the best and  most perceptive reports of the London and other UK occupations, that I’ve seen, have been from ‘History Is made At Night’, here and here.

Anything that is supported by the Tory Richard Littlejohn, the Social Democrat  Polly Toynbee and the Blairite Andrew Rawnsley, must be so banal as to be virtually meaningless. But that doesn’t mean they should be forcibly removed. As and when that happens, we must, and will,  stand with them.

Trade unionists are urged to sign the trade union statement of support for the St Paul’s
occupation, backed by Mark Serwotka and John Mc Donnell…and pass it on!
http://www.petitiononline.com/tulsx/petition.html

This report from the AWL is interesting – especially regarding the antisemitism of the so-called ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ who have muscled in in the occupations.

5 Comments

  1. Monsuer Jelly est Formidable said,

  2. SteveH said,

    Oh at last! The silence was becoming deafening.

    I didn’t question whose side you were on but I wondered if your silence on the occupy movement might have something to do with the crackdown by the police thugs in the USA, which puts some doubt in one’s mind that imperialism is acting as a progressive influence in the Arab spring. Call me a dirty cynic.

    And this is the danger, by embracing imperialism and abandoning Marxism you then abandon your potential allies at home. Though personally I just wish you lot would join the Tories and have done with it.

  3. Jim Denham said,

    “I wondered if your silence on the occupy movement might have something to do with the crackdown by the police thugs in the USA, which puts some doubt in one’s mind that imperialism is acting as a progressive influence in the Arab spring…Though personally I just wish you lot would join the Tories and have done with it”… blah, blah, blah…

    Bloody hell, it’s pathetic, isn’t it?

    Learn to fucking well THINK, you moron:

    http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/05/think.htm

  4. Karl Dallas (@karldallas) said,

    The word fucking should only be used when describing the beautiful sexual act. Using it as an expletive is anti-human and diminishes the effectiveness of what you have to say.
    I enjoy fucking, but I don’t enjoy your use of the word outside of the sexual context for which the word was created.

    • Rosie said,

      Using it as an expletive is anti-human and diminishes the effectiveness of what you have to say..

      Sorry, you’re wrong on two counts:-

      1. It’s human, all too human.
      2. It adds emphasis. “Learn to THINK, you moron” wouldn’t convey exasperation towards chronic idiocy nearly so well.

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