Another tragedy for the Palestinians

June 17, 2007 at 7:56 pm (Jim D, liberation, sectarianism)

The Hamas coup in Gaza is a tragedy for the Palestinians. It sets back (possibly fatally) the only programme with any realistic prospect of bringing peace and justice to the Palestinians: two states. It divides Gaza and the West Bank, making a viable Palestinian state alongside Israel an impossibility for the time being. And whatever the corruption and decadence of Fatah, it was at least nominally a secular nationalist organisation with a democratic programme that recognised Israel’s right to exist behind pre-1967 borders: hence Hamas’ denunciation of them as “traitors” and “collaborators”. 

Hamas have a democratic mandate and its government should have been recognised by Israel, Europe and the US as the democratically-elected representatives of the majority of Palestinians. But to state that is not to give Hamas any sort of credit as a progessive force, as some on the Israel-hating “left” are only too keen to do. Hamas are anti-semitic clerical fascists. And that’s not just my opinion: here’s what Ziad Abu Ein, a Fatah leader in Ramallah and a close ally of the jailed Fatah hero Marwan Barghouti, had to say (quoted in the Guardian of June 16 2007): “What we have witnessed is a fascist, military coup. Hamas cannot control the Palestinian people with their machine guns”. Abu Ein’s prediction of “a new uprising in Gaza (in a few days) when people dicover the truth about Hamas” may be wishful thinking, but his description of Hamas and their military defeat of the Fatah rabble is accurate.

Worst of all, for the Palestinians, is the fact that Hamas’s victory now means that Israel is “encircled” by Hamas to the south, Hizbollah to the north and Iran to the East – all openly and outspokenly pledged to Israel’s destruction and to driving the Jews out of the region (if not “into the sea”). Israel is not, of course, under any immediate ‘existential’ threat, but this situation can only strengthen the Israeli Right and make a just accomodation with the Palestinians less likely than at any time since the failure of the Oslo accord. 

The refusal of most Arab states and of Islamic fundamentalists like Hamas, to recognise Israel’s right to exist in any shape or form, has been a deadly factor in the Middle East conflict ever since 1948 – and the main victims have (paradoxically) been the Palestinians. The fact that large sections of the “left” in Britain support this anti-semitism (as manifested in the present “boycott Israel” campaign) is nothing less than a disgrace.  The AWL pamphlet Two Nations, Two States summed things up back in September 2002, and the message is all the more true today:

“Thus, though it is indeed the beginning of wisdom to side with the weak and the oppressed Palestinians facing the Israeli army, to support the Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation and demand the immediate setting up of an independent Palestinian state, more than that is necessary.

“If we are to understand the present stage of the conflict, and avoid falling into ‘the anti-imperialism of fools’, then an understanding of history is essential.

“The account most widely accepted on the left, of the Arab-Jewish conflict and of how and why Israel came into existence, and of why the conflict has dragged on for decades, is, in fact not history but envenomed scapegoat-making mythology. On this, much of the British left has for decades followed the line of argument laid down by the Stalinist USSR fifty years ago when it fell out with Israel, purvaying not only pseudo anti-imperialism, but a real and malignant anti-Semitism too.

“It is not racist anti-semitism, of course – there are many strands of anti-semitism in history – but it is a comprehensive hostility to most Jews alive, branded as ‘racists’ if they refuse to support the destruction of Israel.

“The vicarious Arab chauvinism of the pseaudo-left on this issue cannot but repel fair-minded, thinking people who side with the Palestinians, in the sense that (the AWL) does. Thereby, it works against the creation of the mass solidarity movement which the Palestinians need”.

NB: Bob from Brockley (link on the right) has been following events in Gaza with a despairing eye, and provides this interesting link.

Addendum (June 18 2007): this pretty much sums up what passes for “politics” in middle class, ex-pat Palestinian opinion in the West: denial, self-pity and self-righteousness, combined with a refusal to believe that any problems the Arabic people of Palestine are experiencing, can have any origin other than the Israelis and the USA. Pernicious stuff. 

43 Comments

  1. Pickled Politics » Israel, Hamas, boycotts and peace said,

    [...] Israel screwed up when it launched a full-blown attack on Lebanon and now it is further screwing up by fuelling the crisis (by funding Fatah instead of bringing both to the table). Johann Hari today explains exactly why Israel must negotiate with Hamas. The man speaks sense (as does Shiraz Socialist). [...]

  2. Jim Denham said,

    Sunny, at Pickled Politics talks a lot of sense (as usual): he also provides a link to an excellent aricle from the Independent by Johann Hari: folow the link in the heading to the comment above.

  3. resistor said,

    ‘Israel is “encircled” by Hamas to the south, Hizbollah to the north and Iran to the East’

    Geography isn’t your strong point Jim, nearly as bad as your drumming. I think you’ll find that it is the Palestinians who are surrounded by your fascist comrades in the Israeli army. Were you a member of Betar in your youth too?

    Can you explain to your mates why you oppose the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes? I’m sure you have a non-racist reason, so what is it?

  4. modernityblog said,

    resistor,

    I am normally polite in debate, but why don’t you fuck off to some BNP blog where your views will find unanimity and you’ll feel much more comfortable.

  5. Jules said,

    The BNP have adopted quite a strong pro-Israeli stance of late. They backed the invasion of Lebanon and wrote in their paper that nationalists (i.e fascists) could learn from the Isrealis.

    Is their any evidence that resitor is a white supremist or a fascist?

  6. modernityblog said,

    Jules,

    if you are truly interested look thru the HP archive, related to Israel or Jewish issues, resistor tends comment mostly on them

    you can make your own mind up either way.

  7. voltaires_priest said,

    If someone can tell me why they think Resistor is WJ Phillips/another white supremacist, I’d like to know. Please email me.

  8. voltaires_priest said,

    Email is voltairespriest@gmail.com by the way.

  9. Will said,

    If he’s not Phillips then he’s a twelve your old stupid little twat.

    Delete the stinking fucker’s garbage and do us all a big fucking favour as well.

    Jules: The BNP were also against the Iraq war — I take it you were as well. Er-fucking-go — you must be a nazi.

    So will you please fuck off as well. No – on second thoughts – just fuck off.

  10. Jules said,

    Will,

    1. Are 12 year olds excluded from engagment with the proletarian advance guard?

    Please read: http://marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/oct/02.htm

    2. As you well know I was pointing out the logical inconsistancy of Modernity”s attempts to associate people who criticise Israel with the fascist BNP – particularly given that the BNP are currently quite pro-Isreal.

    3. I was against the Iraq war yes, though with hindsight I was clearly wrong. Do you know any good timeshares out there? I’m thinking of making it a regular holiday.

    4. I love it when you treat me ruff.

    Have a lovely evening.

  11. modernityblog said,

    Jules,

    thanks for your comment,

    if you wish to suck up to anti-Jewish racists go ahead, no one is stopping you

    btw, were you ever a member of the SWP?

    no offense, but your arguments tend to be a tad simplistic and your depth of understanding of the BNP’s internal ideology and the face that they present the public, tends to suggest that

    I am sure you’re not, but it pays to ask, just in case

  12. resistor said,

    As the person in question can I just say that I don’t even know who WJ Phillips is. Is he Melanie’s dad?

    ModBlog clearly has a greater knowledge of white supremacists and the BNP than seems healthy. Indeed his resort to obscenity and verbal violence indicates a fascist mindset.

    I would like to see the Palestinian refugees return to the homes from where they driven by fascists like Begin/Irgun and Nazi collaborators like Shamir/Stern Gang. Israel is now led by the former fascist youth/Betar leader Ehud Olmert.

    Why does Jim Denham side with the fascist ethnic cleansers above and against the right of return for Arabs?

  13. modernityblog said,

    resistor wrote:

    ModBlog clearly has a greater knowledge of white supremacists and the BNP than seems healthy.

    interesting point, possibly so but I suspect you won’t understand why I think it is necessary for people on the Left to study fascism, because it is the most toxic ideology of the 20th century and could have been stopped, if people were more aware of its characteristics and dangers.

    I don’t expect you to understand, as your mindset precludes any opposition to fascism but there it is, and I am sure that you welcomed the Hamas coup in Gaza and at another demonstration on the Middle East you will probably welcome the opportunity to shout “we are all Hezbollah”

    your Jew hating mentality is all too obvious, so fuck off

    PS: you should be thankful that they are likely to post here, I think they’re far too charitable myself

  14. Will said,

    Fuck all the pseudo-left and the fascist loving knuckleheads.

    http://www.gentheoryrubbish.com/archives/001153.html

    Am Y’Israel Chai!

  15. voltaires_priest said,

    Mr Modernity;

    How comes your blog doesn’t link here any more?

  16. modernityblog said,

    it doesn’t?? it should, will fix it.

    I am a great fan of Shariz Socialist!

    PS: I should do more with the wordpress setup, widgets etc to bring it in line with my old blog but haven’t been to inclined at the moment.

    btw, has the AWL ever released the Mp3s for that conference? I looked a week or so back, didn’t see them

  17. johng said,

    Change a couple of words in the following paragraph and you’d have modernity bellowing about fascism. Ah, I see he already is. Well done Jim. These exile middle class scum are really contemptible are’nt they. Glad to see your a man of balence.

    “what passes for “politics” in middle class, ex-pat Palestinian opinion in the West: denial, self-pity and self-righteousness, combined with a refusal to believe that any problems the Arabic people of Palestine are experiencing, can have any origin other than the Israelis and the USA. Pernicious stuff”

  18. modernityblog said,

    JohnG,

    some of us think that the Left should avoid any connection to the extreme Right, whereas as you and your lot want to embrace them

    that’s the difference, you won’t understand that

  19. johng said,

    So do you agree with Jim’s portrayel of Palestinians living in exile as ‘pernicious’. yes or no. Stop waffling.

  20. johng said,

    I also enjoyed jims description of Palestinians as self pitying, in denial etc. This is incredible given that Palestinians are fairly uniquely both a stateless people and at the same time under military occupation. If anyone can find that combination anywhere else over such a long period of time please do write sarcastic comments about their self pitying refusal to accept that this is all their own fault.

  21. johng said,

    And its an excellently balenced and sensible argument from a Palestinian perspective. Stateless peoples are however not allowed to have perspectives of their own of course. They must do the bidding of their great friends who’ve done so much for them: ‘the international community’.

    What a joke.

  22. modernityblog said,

    JohnG,

    I would answer you but none of your points are in good faith

    You are a cheerleader for the worst elements in the Middle East: Hizbollah and Hamas, who would gladly consign the Palestinians to the role of suicide bombers, martyrs or cannon fodder

    You seem to look at Palestinians as mere pawns in a geopolitical conflict, whereas I think they are very human and frail, much like the Israelis, and I hope that they will live in peace, next to each other.

    So when you have the ability to discuss these matters in genuine good faith then I will gladly welcome you back to humanity, away from that sect of political nihilism which seems to dominate much of your thinking nowadays.

  23. johng said,

    Modernity, you have over the last few weeks, manufactured loads of rubbish about me ‘finding the Holocaust difficult to talk about’ (this has to be one of the lowest things I’ve ever seen in the admittedly fairly dirty world of blogdom) I hardly think your in a position to get on a moral high horse.

    One of the more extraordinary things about these discussions is the constant dodging of the political question of the occupation and its impact on the lives of Palestinians. Here you have Jim Denham pouring his scorn on Palestinian ‘middle class’, ‘ex-pats’ (can you believe this language coming from someone who calls himself a socialist?) and after all your ranting about ‘insensitivity’ you have absolutely nothing to say.

    All you can do is continue your ceaseless campaign to delegitimate Palestinian nationalism (I believe you stated that Palestinian nationalism was a ‘nebulous’ subject), make up garbage about your opponents, and avoid at all costs any discussion of reality.

    Your whole argument revolves around equating the terrible hatreds that have developed around the Israeli-Palestine conflict with the history of European anti-semitism, and therefore accusing any who do not accept the Israeli states rationalizations for the occupation as anti-semites or playing into the hands of anti-semites. Do you not yourself recognise that these petty smear tactics not only won’t work in the long term, but must damage your own sense of what it is to be an ethical human being?

    The more ridiculous sight of those like Denham translating this desperate right wing propaganda into Socialist principle one can pass over in silence. For the left though, its a rather incredible spectacle. Even though most prefer to avert their eyes. The dreadful suffering of Palestinians is rather more important then either Jim’s disgusting recycling of appalling cliches to justify their treatment, or on the other hand, odious attempts by those who support their oppression to pretend to care about them as ‘human beings’ (I can think of nothing more disgusting then this kind of guilty consience passing itself off as moral rectitude).

    I would again challenge you to find a single example were people claiming to be on the left dare to talk about oppressed people in this way.

  24. voltaires_priest said,

    That post above is a load of bollocks written in haste, isn’t it John? I’ll give you a bit of time to examine its internal contradictions for yourself, to preserve your dignity.

  25. johng said,

    No Voltaire. Why is it a load of bollocks?

    Given the appalling final paragraph by Denham this occured to me:

    Palestinians are pretty well unique in combining being a stateless people with being under military occupation (I’ve been trying to think of other examples, and would genuinely like to hear of any).

    They’re also pretty unique in being routinely blamed for their own situation, even amongst supposedly liberal commentators. Imagine someone claiming that the situation of Buddhists in Tibet was the product of their failing to modernise.

    Given the constant claims that Israel is being singled out, I’ve been thinking about the extraordinary way in which Palestinians are singled out as uniquely unworthy of normal human solidarity.

    Again, if there are any examples with which one can compare this I’d like to hear about them.

  26. voltaires_priest said,

    The Palestinians aren’t a single politically unified bloc any more, and it’s a fact that one has to have a discussion about politics within Palestine, as well as about the Israeli occupation. There are many Palestinians, with many different political views. Not to do so would be just bizarre, and would fall back into the kind of “look over there!” politics for which sections of the left have been rightly lampooned before.

    As for using terms like “middle class”, I presume that most of the people to whom Jim’s referring are middle class. So what’s making you so sqeamish and full of self-righteous pseudy indignation about using a descriptiver term?

    It seems to me that the above postings just display one of the periodic lapses into emotional hyperbole that you seem inexplicably to have from time to time.

    Further, Jim doesn’t “blame the Palestinians” for their situation, and it’s not honest of you to suggest otherwise.

  27. modernityblog said,

    JohnG wrote:

    you lie endlessly, you have even accused Jim Denham of hanging out with fascists, as in your previous statement “Increasingly Jim it seems to me that hanging out with real fascists on the net has done something to your brain.”(1)

    so frankly I can’t understand why they haven’t yet banned here you over that groundless and vile accusation.

    you must hate the Internet?

    your previous comments are constantly being thrown back at you, to remind you of your political, intellectual and moral decline

    btw, do you think that throwing people off of the top of buildings is legitimate political expression?

    (1) http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/criticism-of-israel-cannot-be-construed-as-anti-semitic/#comments see comment #29

  28. voltaire_spriest said,

    Now, I didn’t notice that before. So which fascists does Jim hang out with, John? Hmmm?

  29. modernityblog said,

    Volty,

    JohnG will probably pretend he was joking, or vanish until he thinks that you’ve forgotten about his stupid comments.

    there is a strange pattern to his bizarre behaviour?

  30. johng said,

    Well in my view Islamophobia is the new anti-semitism (which isn’t to say the older kind does’nt exist) and Jim, if not Islamophobic himself regularly flirts with and aligns, as well as recycling arguments endlessly designed to highlight the very special barbarism of Islam. But see the great concern about Palestinians here. Its very impressive.

    But certainly in Europe today Muslims have become the concentrated symbol of the ills of modern society ranging from ‘cultural relativism’ to ‘spineless liberals’ who ‘appease’ muslims. This is an obsession on this site (it is of course the main obsession of the ‘decent left’) but its also the obsession of European New Right. It is identical to the ideological derangement of late 19th century anti-semitism.

    Interesting though that none of you are capable of answering any questions or apologising for referring to the Palestinian diaspora as ‘ex-pats’ with ‘pernicious politics’. Those Muslim Arabs. They’re just not LIKE us are they?

    Voltaire once again ‘looks over there’. Incredible. So nice of you Voltaire to notice that Palestinians have different opinions. Don’t imagine that Palestinian nationalism can be broken as easily as all that though Voltaire. They’re not going away you know, much as you’d love to see it.

  31. modernityblog said,

    JohnG,

    I see, you’re trying to re-trace your steps after you accused Jim Denham of hanging out with fascists,

    so who exactly are these fascists, name names.

    you wrote:

    It is identical to the ideological derangement of late 19th century anti-semitism.

    that’s a very interesting notion and with anyone else I might ask how does 19th-century biological racism come into it?

    that is with anyone else

    here’s why, I suspect your knowledge of antisemitism was probably garnered from some cheap pamphlet or a rather thin journal article, so here’s the question for you:

    which particular scholarly books have you read on the topic of antisemitism?

    please tell us, and dissuade us of the idea that you’re plucking stuff from your arse on this topic

  32. resistor said,

    So Jim Denham describes refugees as ‘ex-pat Palestinian(s)’. This is disgusting racism. Will the other members of this blog disassociate from themselves from this filth?

  33. Will said,

    Ignoring the juvenile anti-semite commenter above…

    Gameboy: [quote begins]

    “Well in my view Islamophobia is the new anti-semitism”

    [end quote]
    ………
    [quote begins]

    “It is identical to the ideological derangement of late 19th century anti-semitism.”
    [end quote]

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    ad infinitum

  34. voltaires_priest said,

    John;

    Your statement about what I wrote is just crap (so much so that it leads me to wonder if it was written after a few hours in the pub). It doesn’t even attempt to address what I wrote, other than to feebly suggest that my motive is to “break the Palestinians”. To be honest I’ve never heard anything so stupid since… oooh since you accused Jim of hanging out with fascists.

    Which fascists does Jim hang out with, John? You seem to have forgotten being asked the question.

  35. Will said,

    Fuck Game and his stupid gang of anti-impi cunts.

    Stop treating them as if they are part of some left wing movement.

    They quite clearly aren’t.

    Delete the fash twat!

  36. voltaires_priest said,

    Now William;

    If I were to “fuck Game”, that would just be… gross. No?

  37. Will said,

    Use a fork — that way you won’t catch anything nasty.

  38. modernityblog said,

    JohnG,

    just so this point doesn’t get lost the posts:

    which particular scholarly books have you read on the topic of antisemitism?

  39. Will said,

    The thick twat is still trying to finish his tatty copy of “I’m Not the Only One ” – i.e. if he can get the pages apart again after all the spunk he’s spilled onto the pages.

    The dirty bastard.

  40. Will said,

    Here’s a report that Gameboy should look at.

    About his mate Saddam and Chemical Ali doing some genocide stuff.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt5uJdNDJ6E

  41. tim said,

    Bad news for Galloway.
    Another dinner guest to die.
    Good news for Galloway.
    Another witness to his perjury to die.

  42. johng said,

    Modernity DOES enjoy asking questions does’nt he?

  43. modernityblog said,

    well JohnG?

    which particular scholarly books have you read on the topic of antisemitism?

    I am curious, I thought you might be able to direct us to some good books

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